oooh, pretty. That is one highly moving thingo you've written there.
*scratches nose* I don't know what, if anything, is my Fandom For Live. Narnia feels like home, but then, so did LOTR, and I slipped out of the cracks of that.
Although... I will never leave my Tolkien obsession completely behind. It's too wound up in how I think and who I am and what I study :P. So chalk that up as Lifelong Fandom.
The other would be Arthurian. Started reading Arthurian stories in my early teens; tried to write a major work on Guinevere and got horribly stuck and had to give up, in my last year of high school. Came to uni, decided to be an Arthurianist. Discovered Old English, decided Arthurianists were a bunch of boring time-wasting Celtomaniacs.
And then discovered Middle English, and Gawain. Now we're back to all the things which captivated me about Arthuriana in the first place: a living mythology, which is everyone's and no-one's. There's not much of a line in my head between scholarship and fic, for Arthuriana. I should probably start footnoting my fic...
For me, LOTR was...well. It was my first foray into fandom hardcore, you know, at it with both barrels, all the energy I could possibly spare. And while I still read in LOTR and write the occasional drabble, I know my days as a heavy-duty participant are over. It was a rough place, to say the least. In the long run, I somehow didn't fit in.
LOTR fandom is what got me through school and the first year or so of uni... Not the fanfic side, I read one TERRIBLE suefic on ringbearer.org and refused to touch any more- and then I had friends who were into viggo/bean slash and I got squicked by the mere idea. But ringbearer was my home, always will be my home, even if I don't fit in there properly anymore.
Because I was never into the ficcing, LOTR 'fandom' for me was following the movies, acquiring as much obscure Tolkien knowledge as I could, that sort of thing. I still do that by times, even if I'm not in an interpretive community for it. *cuddles her new copy of On Fairy Stories*
Fic is something I don't have to footnote, thank God. Because I'm sick and tired of having to footnote everything else!
I think I'm a compulsive footnoter. I had REAL TROUBLE not putting citations in my Yuletide request for SGGK...
Hot Fuzz/Good Omens crossover? OMG YES. You would have at least one enthusiastic reader, in the shape of ME!
I, for one, am pleased to see Hot Fuzz joining your ranks. We need more good, dedicated writers who love these characters as they are.
To answer your question:
I started reading and writing fanfic (mostly slash) in 1999 and stopped in 2001. I only came back because of Hot Fuzz. Specifically, basingstoke's "Hard Bend." That story still breaks me in many ways, as brief as it is. But it helped seal for me my love of Danny and Nicholas for a good long while.
I don't see myself deciding to be done with this fandom, mostly because it is ripe for so much: humor, angst, drama, romance, and even a dash of the paranormal (God, I hope!). Danny and Nicholas are the perfect couple, much the same way Fraser and Ray K. (dueSouth) are the perfect couple: they need each other, they depend on each other, they get each other in ways others never understand, and--primarily--there's such a strong foundation of friendship already there that building upon it is almost easy. Thinking about their relationship, thinking about new ways to write about it, all of this makes me happy the same way the movie makes me happy every single time I watch it. I want this fandom to live a good long while, as others have managed to, but I hope it can do that while remaining small.
There are other fandoms for which I will read and even write the odd story here and there. But I don't feel the same resonance for them as I do this one. As long as that emotional connection is there, I am staying (and I hope you do too).
The paranormal is something I hit pretty hard in some of my TS fic, and it's something I'd love to work into HF in the future (though not in the same way as I did in TS, not really). And small fandoms can survive with said size intact for years; TS is actually living proof of that. We're tiny, but we're a slow, steady shade of active. It's another one of those things that has me convinced it's some kind of miracle!
(Nicholas and Danny are misfits. Come to think of it, all my boys are misfits in one way or another. It's why I can't leave them. I can't leave my own. That would be treachery!)
(don't be astonished if I produce a crossover between the two one of these days)
A life-long fandom? I don't know, each of mine has felt like it at the time. That I could stay there forever and be happy. But most of them, if I come across again, at least make me content.
Currently it's these two. On one hand they're just plain fun, but at the same time they're so inextricably bound by circumstance and a prickly kind of love. The potential is there to have a good time and utterly devastate you because being the all for each other is both charming and terrifying. You never learn a lot about them, but sifting through the tiny details you do is part of the joy. And the information you do glean is so much more than car chases and gun fights.
It's all in the details. And in that respect, it's hard to learn these two at a glance: my learning curve for Nicholas and Danny has been a bit slower than I would have predicted, at least by my own standards! I feel like I'm still trying to get them all pitch-perfect, or trying to sound them out for the full register. I have the feeling I'm going to be amazed when I discover the full extent of what they can do!
You describe it so well. I find that there is this remarkable intensity of reaction to a source material that draws people to fandom in the first place, and sometimes that can be so difficult to articulate.
I've tried to articulate it repeatedly, but it never quite comes out right. I'm fairly pleased with the above, though; it roused me from a light sleep, as I was thinking about these things, and suddenly I thought, oh, I need to go write this down...
I, alas, have never found my One True Fandom.
Well, as you can see, I don't have one true fandom - it's more like a handful of true fandoms surrounded by a whole passel of slightly-less-true ones.
You are such a romantic! Which leads me to a recommendation to you: the Kushiel books by Jacqueline Carey. Her writing style is so lush and poetic, and they're all told through the voice of Phedre who is a courtesan in the Court of Night Blooming Flowers. You get everything from sex to politics to religion. Her main antagonist, Melisande Shahrizai, is such a devious genius. The first one is "Kushiel's Dart" if you're interested.
You are also the first person I've met, other than myself, who has even seen the movie Toy Soliders. I freaking LOVE that movie and I always get just a little choked up when Joey bites it. Real machine guns are different from Hollywood ones honey.
Fandoms that have hung around for more than a handful of months...well, for me, the number one there is Transformers. *laugh* I've been a fan since I was about six, saw the animated movie in the theatre when I was seven, and then twenty years later I was in the theater again, trying not to cover my eyes and saying: Please don't let him die! Please don't let him die! I can't stand to see that 'bot die twice! (about Optimus Prime, who isn't even my favorite, but he had a profound effect on my life)
Then there are the Heralds of Valdemar books by Mercedes Lackey. The ones that really stick with me out of this whole series are the three that make up the Last Herald-Mage trilogy about the life and death of Vanyel Ashkevron. They even won PFLAG awards, and I just identify way too much with him and how he grew up.
The Final Fantasy series as a whole, as well. Every time I hear the Crystal Theme/Prelude, I squee. The majority of my plushie collection is made up of FF creatures. There are always amazing lessons to learn about life, love, friendship, religion, personal delusion, loyalty, etc. in these games.
And Black Mages! >D
Joey biting it was what made me snap. And boy, did I snap. If you're ever brave enough to wade through the Series and Book of Hours, I commend you. I don't know how I wrote all that shit without losing my mind. Near the end of it, I kind of did, for a little while.
due South, without a question. It's the fandom I can't walk away from, and it's just like you said - the characters and the world are always in my mind. I started watching and thinking about due South in the summer of 1999, I think, and each time I think I've left it behind I get hit with my love for it all over again.
I suspect Stargate: Atlantis is also one of them, but it's possibly too soon to tell. I've been thinking about SG:A since last November or so, and I haven't yet come to the point where I think I'm done with it, only to have it grab me back in again. The real test, for me, is whether my fannish interest stays with me past the waning of my first wave of fascination. We'll see. :)
Also, your description of Toy Soliders is intriguing! I have to admit that I have no idea what kind of source material it is - movie? This seems like a job for Google!
It's a 1991 film starring Sean Astin and Wil Wheaton. At the time I saw it, I barely knew who either one of them was. So I don't see them; I just see the characters. But then, I'm very actor-blind when it comes down to it. In theory, it's Death of the Author. In my world, it's Death of the Actor (at least when I'm working with characters from films).
(Embarrassingly) The Vampire Chronicles.
In a way, aspects of Highlander: The Series and also of Doctor Who fandom. Weirdly probably aspects of Lexx too, which is *really* embarassing.
Possibly Lost, but I have to wait to see how it ends. :/
Remus/Sirius is one of my Pairings That Got Away. I wanted so badly to write them, but everything went so far to hell in a handbasket that I didn't even want to touch it. When I get that angry at a writer, I get a bad taste in my mouth.
I tried to just make a clean break, but it doesn't seemed to have worked very well, something that has become very clear to me this week. *sigh*
was 2005, wasn't it?
eta: yep, 2005, as per website.
, that show hit me in so many ways.Edited at 2008-11-14 03:54 am (UTC)
It seems like longer ago than that, somehow! I know I went to SoC two years running, so that probably accounts for why I got mixed up.
Yeah. What you basically said is what I feel about most of the stuff I write too...except outside of ZE INTERNETZ, it's sometimes hard to find an audience that appreciates awesome books/films/shows as much as some of the folks in fandoms. Well spoken, ma'am.
And *gah* Good Omens reeked of aewsome and amazingness. I loved that book so damn much. It made me giggle inappropriately.
What am I stuck with?
I'd have to say my first is The Bourne Supremacy. The books were the first 'adult' like thing I read when I was twelve, and when the movies came out -- particularly the second -- I just fell in love with it. Just because it didn't follow the usual action movie mix. I mean, yeah, you had explosions and kung-fu drama and gunfights, but in the end, the guy doesn't get the girl, he doesn't truly get the bad guy, and he's still lost. Still has more of a journey to go. Just something that I weirdly connected with at that point in my life, I guess.
Batman, and most everything associated with it (including the cartoon series JLU, Batman: Animated Series) basically makes up my entire existance...sadly enough. I was raised with the cartoon Batsy as a kid and as I've gotten older (yeah, being a teenager doesn't terribly count, I suppose), I've come to appreciate and enjoy the characters of Batman a helluva lot more. It's just -- an amazing, huge world, and it has so much more depth than a lot of fandoms.
There are other, smaller things that I feel rather attached to, but at this point, the ones above definitely contribute a lot to my fandom glee and occasionally *facepalm*.
I have yet to see the Bourne films, but they're on my list! How do they compare to the books?
Something Wicked This Way Comes. This fandom is practically nonexistent, but I write it almost compulsively sometimes because I've never fully recovered from the intensity of the connection between Will and Jim. They are light and dark. Inextricably bound. Will's father is one of the greatest heroes I've ever encountered in a story. And Mr. Dark? Such a twisted, twisted being. This book gave me a hope I'd never held before.
Death Note. More duality here. (I'm noticing a pattern.) L/Light is the struggle for power, for perfection, and for a word. I will never see justice or death (or cake) the same way. Near/Mello--finding identity in the hatred of what you admire the most. Mello/Matt is worship at its most sacrificial. When I finished this series, I think the world looked a little more rotten. (But I wanted it to live more than ever.)
With Batman, it remains to be seen. It's another one that's wormed its way into the everyday, but it's too soon to tell.
Fandoms that come and go...Mushishi, Alice In Wonderland/Through the Looking Glass, Fullmetal Alchemist, D. Gray Man, V For Vendetta, Once Upon A Time In Mexico, and The Prestige.
Good Omens blew my mind, but with a few exceptions, the fanfiction hasn't impressed me much. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places? Any recommendations?
- oh, I love that short story! It's been years since I last read it. I think I'll go to the trouble of tracking it down again...
As for GO fic, this journal's absolutely full
of it - as is the collaboration community that I've got going with artist linnpuzzle
(and if you've already tried my fic and it's done nothing for you? tell me, because I really do want to know what's working and what's not!) And for as much as I write, my list of favorite authors is quite small. I'd check out the works of louiselux
if I were you, and stjamespark
is less of a slog than lower_tadfield
"I think I'll go to the trouble of tracking it down again..." Do. My copy is so dog-eared and worn that it's just silly.
I haven't read your GO fic yet, but will absolutely do so now. (I started on ff.net and waded through quite a lot of trash to find maybe two or three that I actually liked.) Thank you for the other references as well! I'll check them out after yours. :)
are both ace. As for FF.net, oh, Lord - my days of looking there for anything are long over. Which is a shame, because I know there are
some hidden gems! I find LJ a lot more manageable. Oh! argyleheir
. Her GO stuff is incredible, too, and she even wrote a Hot Fuzz
story herself. She writes the most eclectic mix of fandoms I've ever seen...
I will always be indebted to ff.net for getting me into fanfiction. (I didn't know it existed. What? You can do that? And it's legal?) But it has let me down so often. :( I did a megashift to livejournal when TDK fanfic communities were thriving here and there was practically nothing on ff.net. I'm so glad. *hugs manifestation of lj* And thanks for the additional authors! ^o^
Admittedly it was only one
additional author ( argyleheir
). You're welcome!
Oooh...what a lovely, interesting, and introspective post. Truly, never have I been faced with the question - why do I call certain fandoms home?
There are many things which draw me to source material, and, thus, their fandoms - clever writing, humorous overtones, a few dashes of angst, good drama - but mostly, it's the characters, and how they interact with each other and the world around them. I'll often enjoy media, but it's extremely rare that the worlds or characters insert themselves deeply enough into my heart to become permanent residents, or even brief fancies. To date, there has only been five fandoms that I've been a part of for any great while: Sonic the Hedgehog (the comics, not the games), LOTR, Harry Potter, Stargate Atlantis, and Hot Fuzz. For a fandom to truly insinuate itself into my life and my being, it has to have stories yet to be told, and characters worth writing.
In each case, I've been inspired enough by said fandoms to produce fan material, be it written or drawn. I'm no longer part of the former three, but I have a feeling my love for Atlantis and Hot Fuzz will last for most of my adult life.
I have so many friends who are into SGA, and from what I hear, I can understand (in theory) its draw. There are probably a lot of fandoms out there that I'd buy hook, line, and sinker, but I just barely manage to find time for the ones I do stumble across on my own as it is!
A lot of us are stuck in the third season, pre-episode 17, Sunday. To those of us who are, that's the "real" SGA, and we'll exist happily in an AU that doesn't blow up one of the very few sensitive male characters on TV and keeps the real leader of Atlantis where she belongs.
xD Well, we'll take whatever you give. ^_^
Much the same way I'm stuck in Seasons 1 & 2 of Due South! I don't acknowledge anything past that, for similar reasons.
And I'm glad to have you all along for the ride :)
Good gracious, I haven't seen Due South in ages! Which makes very little sense, because I used to love that show. I wanted to join the RCMP for quite a while because of it. :'D
I think Paul Gross is brilliant. Have you seen him in Slings & Arrows?
Ooooh, no. *adds to torrent list* :D
They did three seasons before the show got canceled, I think. We have all the seasons on my husband's computer, but I can never recall if it's three or four! I think it's three.
What a thoughtful, interesting post.:-)
I've only been active as a writer for about a year, but I've read fanfic longer than that, so I know a little about the way fandom love will come and go. For example, I discovered fanfic through HP, but these days I rarely read in that fandom, except when it shows up on my friends list. (However, I mostly write in HP, but that's not because I think the books are all that brilliant - rather, I'm a lot more wary of writing fic based on source material which I adore, because I'm afraid I can't do it justice!)
Btw, I've bookmarked your latest Hot Fuzz fic and I'm looking forward to reading it this weekend. :-)
I probably get too emotionally involved, you know? Then again, I don't think I'm capable of preventing myself from doing so. I jump off cliffs. That's just my way.
(Aw, thanks - I hope you enjoy it, in any case!)
And I can't walk the streets of London without my favorite angel and demon somewhere near Aw. This doesn't surprise me at all.
It's been quite a while for me since I was actively involved in a fandom. I'd love to fall for one again. But Good Omens was a big one for me, obviously. And you should know that your contributions to said fandom are just as much a part of that world for me now as the source material itself...they're interwoven, as far as I'm concerned, and all the better for it.
I was quite into HP fandom before I became so disenchanted with books six and seven. Boo on JKR. And before that was LOTR.
Oh, and Will from His Dark Materials is always in the back of my mind lately. He's such a dark horse, especially for someone so young. :)
JKR turned me off at book six, although I read seven (and was pretty sorry I did). I had wanted so badly to love it all, I really had. Remus/Sirius are the pairing that got away.
For some reason, HDM is so bloody perfect that I don't think I could come close to touching it. Then again, I'm planning a re-read, and I may change my mind about that.