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TDK fic, continued: "Immovable Object" - Part 3/4 - NC17 - Batman/Joker [Aug. 1st, 2008|02:01 pm]
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Title: Immovable Object
Fandom: The Dark Knight
Pairing: Bruce Wayne(/Batman)/Joker
Rating: NC-17
Notes: Part 3/4; follows I. Cell-Block Tango and II. Unstoppable Force. I suggest reading the first couple installments, as this one will make a lot more sense if you do. For the record, this is set in an AU where Bruce has been caught and put in Arkham (with a difference, I hope). Now, all bets are off - and no narrator is reliable.
Summary: Motives and desires are two very different things.


If nothing else, Bruce Wayne considered himself a consummate researcher and, when circumstances required, a decent spy. As limiting as his present circumstances were, there had been very few obstacles in reaching his most recent goal. Alfred was as loyal and persuasive an emissary as any man could hope for; before a week and a half had passed since his most recent unfortunate tête-à-tête, Alfred had been able to secure Bruce (for a price just shy of extortionate) a copy of the Joker's medical admittance record to Arkham. Seeing as no other relevant documents on his nemesis existed, it was all Bruce could hope to work from.

Two hours later, Bruce tossed the entire folder on the floor, not caring where the contents scattered. Not only did the file make no mention of scars (beyond the obvious), tattoos, or other potential distinguishing features, but the bastard's blood-test results had come out clean as a whistle. How on earth did you go around carrying that many sharp objects and not end up with some kind of infection?

Bruce closed his eyes and rested his forehead against his folded hands, desperate for focus. He wanted to know what he was up against. He needed to know who he was dealing with. And if there was anything to be learned about the Joker, it had to be written somewhere on his person, safely concealed by the remnants of that rag-tag couture and more recently added hospital whites.

Difficult though it was to admit, it looked as if Bruce's only choice was to play along with the madman's latest method of aggravated assault, sickly orange-peppermint taste and all. If Bruce played his cards right, maybe even instigated the next incident before the Joker could manage to pin him...

After all, it was his game. The twisted bastard had better have the gall to finish it.

(Besides: Bruce had instructed Alfred to inquire after Gordon's fee and buy them an extra thirty minutes at time-and-a-half.)


* * *



"Hey, Clown Boy," says the insecure one - maybe to you, maybe not - "you got any more stories to tell? Anderson here is bored of starin' at your ugly mug."

Anderson. So that's his name. Around you, the staff are allowed to hide their nametags if they want. Turn-about is rarely fair play, but you've still got the advantage. You know what they dream about when the world's on fire.

"None I'd like to share. Clive." Your lips are sealed. Keep your eyes down, focus on the flip of the cards. Ace, jack, queen, jack, ace. Very good.

"I swear to God, he shouldn't be allowed to have those," complains Anderson.

"I dunno about that," says Clive, ignoring his partner - tsk. "He'll change his tune when we throw him an 'ol Batsy back in the tank. That's what he's callin' Mr. Wayne now."

You know how it's going to go. Smirk and say nothing, flip the next card. Yours.

"He's been awfully quiet this week," continues Anderson. "Gives me the creeps."

"And he can heeear you." Taunt him, but don't look up. Twotenjackacequeenkingace -

"He ain't even playin' solitaire like a normal person. He's just - "

"Checkmate," you correct him. "Hasn't anyone taught you how to play chess?"

"But you n-need a b-board for that," Anderson points out, stuttering like no tomorrow.

"Of course you don't. All you really need is enough space."


* * *



Bruce groaned at the sound of his alarm. Eight-thirty. World's worst breakfast.

He tried to eat the scrambled eggs and couldn't; there was something vaguely greenish about them this week, and the shade was specific enough to turn his stomach. He turned his attention to the oatmeal instead, which had - unaccountably, unless Alfred was looking out for his diet - bits of banana in it. Not so bad, he decided, and ate half the bowl. When you're hungry, miracles do happen.

Getting dressed wasn't the chore it once had been. His choices were fairly limited, although not as limited as those of some of Arkham's patients. He was surprised that even the Joker was permitted to retain a few of his eccentricities: the necktie, the playing-cards, and the horrible socks. Where the hell did he shop, anyway?

Hospital whites, slippers, and nothing else. There was no need to make this any more complicated than it already was. The starchy material itched Bruce's skin in strange places, making him wonder if he shouldn't have foregone the boxers.

"Rise and shine, Mr. Wayne," said Clive, already outside, twirling the key-ring around two fingers, promptly dropping it. Not-Clive - whose name, it turned out, was Anderson - retrieved them quickly and unlocked Bruce's door, beckoning him forward. They were always civil, if mildly mocking.

"Watch out," Clive said under his breath, taking Bruce's left bicep in a firm grip. "He's been...funny these days. I'm just saying. I'd watch out if I were you."

"Don't let it get to you," Bruce advised him. "Besides, you used to be pretty free with your words."

"Yeah, well," Anderson muttered. "I've learned. The less you give him to play with, the better."

So noted, Bruce thought grimly. "Good morning, Clive," he said pleasantly.

"Yeah, whatever. Same routine as usual, 'cept somebody higher-up figures you guys have been on good behavior and deserve a full hour. What're you gonna waste it on, a few more black eyes and bruised shins?" Clive winked at him.

"Come on," Bruce said mildly. Clive thought he was such a blowhard it made the Joker look sincere in comparison. "That hasn't happened for at least a couple months."

"I don't know. Last time, your buddy had an egg on the right side of his head."

"Must've been your careful handling," Bruce concluded, and Clive shut his mouth.

When they reached the holding cell, to Bruce's surprise, the Joker was already inside.

"Morning, Mr. Wayne," he said, ignoring the guards. "Tell me, do you dream much?" He waved impishly, revealing that he wasn't handcuffed.

Bruce sighed as Anderson nudged him inside and then slid the bars shut. It was going to be a long sixty minutes, and he wasn't certain his script would get him that far.


* * *



Wearing your finest? Good call: the Batman's looking you up and down as if he isn't sure whether he wants to break you or eat you. Excellent choice of greeting, too. This one's particularly suggestible - but you knew that already. Everything else is icing.

"Not really," says Bruce, who just refuses to go away. "Do you?"

"Ah-aaah, I thought we had already established - "

No pleasantries, you moron. Are you trying to ruin your best-laid plans?

You've got him confused in the very least. Now he doesn't know where to look. And now he's shuffling forward on those oh-so-dainty kickers, onesteptwo, and -

You're not ready for this, no matter what you may be thinking.

" - mmmhhhft!"

You didn't think Batsy liked kissing all that much. In fact, you were under the impression he likes it even less than you do. But you forgot to brush, so it's all going to turn out just fine, because in a moment or two his tongue will cease that restless wandering and he'll flinch the very second you pull -

Wrong again! He's not going anywhere, and deep, deep down, you know it.

He looks disgusted, maybe a little bit in pain. Here he goes again. Maybe if you bite -

Oh, and there's this: he isn't going to stop. Even if you bite.

You bite all right. Hard.


* * *



Bruce tasted blood almost immediately, but the pain was insignificant in comparison to what he'd subjected himself to on a nightly basis for what, in his memory, had seemed like an eternity without dawn. He couldn't detect the toothpaste this time around, which was almost a relief - although there was the orange juice, just the same as before. Unbidden, he wondered why this wasn't twice as disgusting as it actually was. The Joker's mouth was disappointingly normal, now that he was paying proper attention to it: warm, wet, and predictably uneven where the scars followed the lines of his teeth along the insides of his cheeks. Even the Joker's hair was softer to the touch than he'd expected, less oily. Perhaps it was the result of Arkham's enforced - or just plain forced - bathing policy.

The Joker's palms were pressed flat against Bruce's chest, exerting an astonishing amount of force. By the time Bruce had torn his attention away from the hair tangled in his fingers, he realized that the sounds the Joker was making weren't ones of enjoyment. He was choking. Laughing all the while, but gagging nonetheless.

Bruce pulled back for a second time, but he wasn't letting go, oh no. He wrapped one arm tightly around the Joker's neck and slid the other down to his waist, pulling the man in roughly. Strange, to think of him as just that: a man and nothing more. A man with a name, a history, and even a past. He had been born as Bruce had been born, and he would surely die. By the sound of his restored breathing, it wouldn't be today.

"You know," wheezed the Joker, his fingers scrabbling ineffectually at Bruce's chest, trying to get a firm hold on the rough white fabric, "I really hate surprises."

"Then maybe you shouldn't deal out so many," Bruce suggested, relinquishing his hold on the Joker's neck. He took hold of the Joker's unpainted chin instead, forcing him to hold his head still. "Hey, no - look here. Good. Did I surprise you?"

The Joker just cackled, his eyes rolling wildly side to side, then back up to the ceiling. Something wasn't usual, though - wasn't quite right. Even without the benefit of black grease-paint, the Joker's dark eyes looked glazed at best and dead tired at worst. What Bruce saw then was something else entirely, in spite of the erratic movement: there was a spark in them so alive that he could only imagine the Joker refused to look at him because he was trying to hide it.

"Listen, did you hear what I said?" Bruce demanded, giving the Joker's chin a rough shake. "Look at me!"

The Joker's eyes skittered down in a short, straight line and froze. Perfectly still.

Perfectly still and fucking terrified, Bruce thought in awe, hardly able to contain a thrill of excitement. This guy can survive a flipped semi-truck and take more bone-breaking blows than any thug I know, yet he's out-and-out terrified of me right now, which is something he's never been before!

The Joker finally blinked, his tongue darting out nervously. His hands were fisted ineffectually in Bruce's hospital shirt, ever so slightly beginning to tremble.

"So," he said, the mock-casual tone belied by the slightest trace of something that was, like the look in his eyes, entirely new. "Now that you've got me, what're you planning to do, exactly? Kiss me to death?" The cocksure voice cracked just as the backlit eyes fluttered and rolled, coming back to perfect focus a split-second later.

Bruce couldn't be sure why, but in that instant, he felt something he'd never been before: really and truly sorry for this horrible, murdering thing that had burst out of nowhere and onto the stage of his life without so much as an explanation.

And he didn't know why, either, but it was only right that he summon as much tenderness for this as he might violence under other circumstances, no matter what the cost. He'd treat this unnamed fear with respect.

It was the Joker who finally bent his head, hesitantly, and planted a mocking kiss on the spot he'd bitten. His tongue jittered across the wound in its wake, then touched the corner of his mouth.

"Batsy," he whispered. It held the bitter, hateful sound of impending defeat.


* * *



You said it would be your digits doing the dirty work, but you knew that was a lie. So you just stand there, that's right, shaking while the Batman draws your coat off your shoulders and down your arms. All business, this guy, but not without style. Say, are you taking notes? Because under that shirt of yours - oh, there, see, that was quick! - he's going to find goosebumps the size of the Himalayas, and that's the kind of thing you're out to inspire, isn't it?

You can't just let this happen. Perhaps -

- you really do want this. Perhaps you'll just let him strip you down to nothing - courtesy of that extra thirty minutes, which he paid for - and stand there, still shaking, while his eyes give you the once-over of your life. There. Like that.

"Listen," says the Batman, finally, turning one finger in the air as if to indicate you can finally step out of your trousers. "This isn't exactly - "

"Thenwhatthefuckisit? For your amusement?"

Now, I'm sure spitting in his face like that won't get the answers you're looking for.

"Shut up! Shuttupshuttupshuttup!"


* * *



It wasn't going at all according to plan.

Now that he'd come to it, Bruce felt sorry he'd resolved to at least strip the bastard down and have a good, close look at every visible inch of him. There were scars on his chest, although they weren't as numerous as Bruce's own, and they were no longer visible, because the Joker was doubled over and shrieking at him. As far as he could tell, there weren't any scars on the Joker's legs, and as for his back, well, he wasn't quite sure this was the right point at which to turn him around and check.

Down to his ankles the Joker went, as swiftly and gracefully as before.

From his vantage point, Bruce got a good look. There were was a long, livid scar from the top one shoulderblade to the bottom of other, crossing the Joker's spine. No rhyme or reason to why his record hadn't mentioned it, and certainly no tattoos to speak of.

Hesitantly, Bruce sank to his knees. No, this wouldn't tell him anything. Only...

The Joker's head flew up at the brush of Bruce's fingertips against his shoulder.

"Some fun," he spat, throwing off Bruce's hand - which wasn't difficult, because his own hand had been curled into a tight fist at his collarbone. "Can't you take a joke? I didn't mean it, Batsy - I mean, wh-what would've been the fun in that?" He laughed low and gurgling in his throat, but the sound broke on a terse gasp.

Bruce's mind raced. "Look, it was a horrible ruse. I thought - "

"No you didn't," hissed the Joker, laughing again, low and terrible. "Oh, no, you don't think. Not you. No, never."

Rage boiled up in Bruce's throat. It was too much to hear his own sincerity mocked.

"Sit down!" he snapped. "And for God's sake, be still."


* * *



Batsy's got a temper on him, so you'd better listen quick and do as he says.

You'd rather not. It's cold in the room all of a sudden, so very cold. You lie back at the Batman's urging. The ceiling looks as soft as the walls - which of course it's not - and Batsy's fingers down your arms and across your chest are what's soft instead.

"Unbelievable," he's saying. "Nothing. Absolutely nothing."

Oh, but there is something. Would you lift your head and take a look at that?

You don't want to. You know it and you feel it and it hurts. And nothing, noth-ing is supposed to hurt anymore. You made sure of that. But you didn't count on this.

So just you take that deep, deep breath. And for God's sake, be still.

The Batman's hand on your belly now: the nerve of it, resisting even though you've got his wrist in both your fists fit to break his you've got it so hard. And this is not what you expected, but he did. The sheer nerve.

"I'm sorry," says the Batman, as if it means anything now, to have laid you this low -

He'll make it quick if you would only wish it so -


* * *



In that clean and sterile space, Bruce knew he hadn't done his best. He'd failed.

The Joker was naked and motionless on the floor, hands flat against the crinkling give, fingers loosely clawed. His eyes were fixed unsteadily on the ceiling, swift flickers of movement betraying some movement of thought behind them. And he was aroused, yes: there was that. But it wasn't what Bruce had expected, wasn't some whirlwind of greedy fury and lust. It was all fear and freezing, some deep, dark emptiness.

Still, he'd made a promise that, having been mistaken, he would do his best.

In two quick movements, Bruce's clothing was gone. Fair was fair. Still, the Joker barely seemed to notice, his eyes flicking only briefly down as Bruce leaned forward over the his face and attempted to make eye contact, questioning.

"You didn't want this? That's the game?"

A crushed giggle escaped the Joker's throat, wavering indecisively on the air.

"Fine," Bruce said, setting his hand back on the Joker's belly. It was difficult to remember gentleness, and it probably wouldn't have made a difference. Such a gesture was probably lost on a man like this - but he was just that. Only human.

The Joker started at the first brush of Bruce's fingers, but there was no sound of laughter to accompany the wire-taut strain of his limbs. And no matter where Bruce put his hands, no matter where his fingers skimmed, there was nothing but hardness and tremor, nothing save sheer loathing and disbelief. He took the Joker's cock in his hand and stroked it carefully.

Circumcised. Birth records, he thought in despair. Is that the only place to start? He could've been born anywhere in the country - or out of it.

The Joker made a sound that was more growl than snicker, harsh and grating.

"You'll have to give me more than that," said Bruce, resigned, and kept on stroking.


* * *



- and you do.

The thing is, it's not about sex. You just keep that in mind while I explain this. It's about intimacy, which was the problem in the first place. Take how you're trembling and writhing, for an example: did you honestly think some part of you wouldn't miss this? Because missing human contact isn't quite the same as missing a specific person. And Batsy isn't any of your long-losts, if you even remember which one of them was real, but he's someone. And he's kissing you again, and, for the record? It isn't so bad. It's his twisted way of showing you mercy. Rather creative, don't you think?

"Yes," you murmur, surprised to hear yourself clearly, what with all the enthusiasm of Batsy's lips getting in the way.

"Be quiet," rasps the Batman, and suddenly his hand's gone from where you miss this most, no. "If you say one more word - "

Not much for talk, this one - so again, you'd better do as he says. See, you had to fall this far before you'd give me the time of day, so while I've got your attention, I'll be taking just as much advantage as Mr. Wayne here, thank you very much. Although I'm not sure if this is quite the time to be continuing our little heart-to-heart, because, ooh, Brucey's warm, isn't he, so very warm! And you've been cold. So very.

You close your eyes, kiss him back, and - for a split second - hate yourself.


* * *



Abruptly, Bruce knew it was a sign he belonged in Arkham, too. At least for now.

He wondered if the Joker found him heavier than he had seemed during hand-to-hand combat, or if he held only the weight of a shadow even now as they tangled and heaved, sweat-sheened, to some entirely different purpose. The Joker sank his teeth hard into Bruce's shoulder, and Bruce shuddered. He should have let the man talk.

Bruce's script hadn't included this, of course. Not per se. He'd acknowledged it as a distinct possibility, what with all the Joker's previous hard-to-read taunting, but he hadn't realized that it would, in the humiliation of misjudgment and error, become mandatory. The Joker was moving against him more desperately now, his breath against Bruce's neck coming in short, ragged gasps. At the first grazing of those lethal eyeteeth, Bruce turned his head and caught the Joker's mouth with his own. Better his mouth get ripped up, which is what usually happens first in an unarmored fight.

The Joker laughed, more a rumble in his chest. Bruce felt it reverberate through his own and shivered. He matched him thrust for thrust, desperately, just aching to end it.

Don't try to tell yourself there's nothing below the belt. You've gone too far now.

And it was true, he reasoned: truer than anything else was in that particular moment. Take away the masks and they're barely enemies; take away the rest of the trappings and they no longer know who they are. Only human, the Joker had said. He hadn't meant it this way, Bruce was sure of it now - but this was how he'd chosen to read it, and now they both had to suffer the consequences. At some point, the Joker had stopped kissing him and reverted back to clinging for dear life.

Bruce ignored his bloody shoulder and, at the Joker's choking whimper, held on tight.


* * *



And you're going, going, gone.

Just let him have his noble little illusion while you unravel. While your sanity's busy leaking out onto that oh-so-flat belly of his, I'm going to tell you a few more things. You set the trap, and it worked. Even if you didn't know that's what you were doing, well, it was. See, the Batman is human: he breathes, he bleeds, and he fucks. And while the latter is not exactly what he's doing here, it should certainly tell you a thing or two about what he's like when it comes down to that crucial last second of fight-or-flight, kill-or-be-killed. He'll find some halfway-point, some compromise. He won't kill you, but he won't fly without making you suffer first.

You're motionless under him now, forehead to forehead. Breathless, unwinding. And is that stubble on Batsy's fair cheek? Unseemly.

While you were busy getting yours, you missed something very important indeed: he got his, too, but it didn't register. He feels even less than you do, and that could turn out one day to be important. You take my word for it.

"Get off me." Knee to the groin, slippery as can be. "Can't fucking breathe."

Batsy's doubled up in pain, staring at you, so shocked. Your clothes are there, there, there, and there. You can spare a sock for clean-up, and maybe even drop the other one on Batsy's precious head. You're a gentleman, too, and don't let him forget it.

"Thanks," Bruce mutters, finally sitting up. Or is it the Batman? Hard to be sure.

Toss the sock in the corner; give Clivey something to really wonder about. Maybe he'll take it down to the lab in a plastic bag for them to analyze. The joke's on Batsy!

"Give me that," Bruce demands, already dressed, dashing after it like a dog after a goddamned bone. Stuffs both socks in his nice clean pockets, furious.

"I didn't know you were such a collector. Batsy. Darling."


* * *



"Take him away," spat the Joker, offering up his wrists. "He's been a bad, bad boy."

Clive snapped on the handcuffs and gestured for Anderson to get the nutcase out of there. Bruce leaned in his usual spot against the wall, waiting. The Joker glowered straight ahead, ignoring them all. Clive raised his eyebrows, but he waited until Anderson and another guard, come out of nowhere, had led the Joker away.

"Anything we should be aware of, Mr. Wayne? Your friend's lost his socks."

"I wouldn't know about that," said Bruce, shrugging. "Maybe he got hungry. Given what they serve for breakfast around here - "

"Okay, wise-ass," Clive sighed, pushing Bruce into the dimly-lit corridor. "Let's go."

"He won't want to see me for a while," Bruce said when they reached his room. "Cancel next month and keep the change."

Clive's mouth quirked in distaste, but he smoothed it out quickly and smirked.

"What did you do to him, anyway?"

Bruce stuck his hands in his pockets - he had to keep from cringing - and smiled. For a split-second, his sense of self-loathing was unbearable.

"Nothing he hasn't already done to himself."


- Continue to Part IV: Deep, Deep Water -
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[User Picture]From: [info]edincoat
2008-08-01 01:42 pm (UTC)

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Not doing too well in the coherency department right now, so I'm just going to say OMFG this was awesome, and yes yes yes, not!sex that seems plausible as opposed to 'being there cos pr0n is needed, no other reason'.

Loved it, just loved it ♥
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-01 01:48 pm (UTC)

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I'm not a big fan of pr0n-simply-for-pr0n's-sake, either! To set something up that has more content than smut in the long run, it's rarely feasible to do it in one go. I don't regret this experiment - although, you know, I was dead sure when it came down to this third part that I'd run the risk of screwing it all up.

Thanks for reading this far!
[User Picture]From: [info]tourniquetblood
2008-08-01 01:42 pm (UTC)

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i need to know... did you girls go to a meeting a week ago and said "Everytime joker first kisses someone, make him draw BLOOD!"?
cuz i think you did

but i love the story!
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-01 01:46 pm (UTC)

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Absolutely not: in the first installment, Joker does kiss him without drawing blood ;) He nips, sure, but his mouth is bleeding because one of the guards punched him on the way to the holding cell. The reason he draws blood here is that, in Part II, he promised himself it would be Bruce bleeding and not him. It just so happened that Bruce's lip was the easiest first target...

Thank you for reading! I'm thrilled that you do.
[User Picture]From: [info]hyde_the_body
2008-08-01 01:59 pm (UTC)

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Oh man, this was totally *intense!* Please, pretty please write more!
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-01 07:06 pm (UTC)

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There's one more part to come in this sequence, so rest assured I will! As for any other stand-alones, well, we'll see what comes along! I'm not terribly good at making predictions.

I love your icon; that still is one of the most striking ones out there. Thank you very much!
[User Picture]From: [info]gemfyre
2008-08-01 02:18 pm (UTC)

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Woah
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-01 07:07 pm (UTC)

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Cheers! Glad you enjoyed it. Or were stunned by it. I'll take either ;)
[User Picture]From: [info]my_kurama
2008-08-01 02:22 pm (UTC)

oooh my

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that was ridiculously delicious and twisted. That confused, scientific darkness that you use to write Bruce is marvelous. Well done.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-01 07:08 pm (UTC)

Re: oooh my

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Confused, scientific darkness. My God, you describe his psyche well! I'm thanking you for that description alone...

(But not really: I'm also thanking you for taking the time to read and comment!)
[User Picture]From: [info]calm_paranoia
2008-08-01 02:35 pm (UTC)

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Your story is ama-za-zing! I loved this chapter, and everything else leading up to it!!
Total win!
8D
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-01 07:09 pm (UTC)

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Then I shall try my best to make sure Part 4 lives up to it! Granted, it won't be as long as this one - as this was really the high point of the sequence, plot-wise.

Thank you!
[User Picture]From: [info]blood_red_wolf
2008-08-01 02:48 pm (UTC)

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Absolutely stunningly written. That was amazing to read...it was so subtle...I can't wait for the next installment :)
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-01 07:10 pm (UTC)

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I'm relieved to hear it's not too heavy-handed; I felt so mired down while working on it that I couldn't see the bigger picture clearly. Thank you for reading and letting me know what you think!
[User Picture]From: [info]captain_libris
2008-08-01 03:00 pm (UTC)

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I'm really enjoying this so far, and I'm definitely looking ferword to the conclusion. The Joker's inner dialogue in particular is amazing. I can sincerely say that I'm absolutely loving this particular take on their relationship - for some reason, it seems to make a lot more sense to me. Thank you for sharing!
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-01 07:12 pm (UTC)

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A lot of the takes I've read don't make sense to me, although I've read a couple in particular that really do (see [info]interpretthis's work especially). That said, thank you so much, and it's good to know that I've done something that works not just for myself!
[User Picture]From: [info]destinyawakened
2008-08-01 03:54 pm (UTC)

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I dont usually like the Joker/batman pairings lately because of the mushiness most people are putting into The Joker..but this was different...and a little F*cked up. But isnt that was The Joker is about?
It's pretty believable..
I'd read more.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-01 07:13 pm (UTC)

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To be honest, I can't even try to read the mushy ones (and I've heard that they really are proliferating at a mile a minute). The OOC would probably kill me about three sentences in!

And, well, there will be one more, at least for this thread - so thanks for reading, and I'm very pleased that you enjoyed it :)
[User Picture]From: [info]thiskindalove
2008-08-01 04:58 pm (UTC)

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My coherency? Going, going gone.

I don't even know how to say how good this is. It's... GWAH I think it could be canon. That's how good it is.

And is that stubble on Batsy's fair cheek? Unseemly.

Absolutely my favourite line. :) It made me grin my broken grin, my "Joker smile". AHAHAHHA.

Yes yes yes I do love these pieces.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-01 07:14 pm (UTC)

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First of all, my brain was falling apart with fatigue through so much of this that I bet "how good it is" is one big accident. That said, though, I'm particularly happy with how this is all turning out. I thought it would be an experiment gone bad (as Batman was actually one of the last things I could ever have imagined myself writing)!

*hugs*

Your commentaries brighten my day.
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2008-08-01 05:28 pm (UTC)

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This is by far my favorite TDK fanfic!
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-01 06:58 pm (UTC)

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Thank you; I'm honored! And nice to make your acquaintance - I've added you back.
[User Picture]From: [info]iammeanttolive
2008-08-01 05:58 pm (UTC)

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That was so sad, but amazing at the same time
MORE! =D
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-01 07:16 pm (UTC)

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I imagine Part 4 will be up by Sunday or so - I need a couple days' rest, as I've spent most of the week turning out these first three, and I realized over dinner when I couldn't remember something really important how blown-out my brain is at the moment ;)

Thank you.
[User Picture]From: [info]parfait_cell
2008-08-01 05:59 pm (UTC)

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This is beautifully written; you described the sex with a delicacy oft lacking in fanfiction. Loving that the Joker got more than he bargained for -- and in a plausible way, no less.


[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-01 07:18 pm (UTC)

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I'm sure that's the bane of existence for both of them, never being quite sure when one will manage to shock or subvert the expectations of the other. Actually, I think the mirror has two faces, in this case!

Thanks so much for the thoughtful feedback.
[User Picture]From: [info]tanzent
2008-08-01 08:34 pm (UTC)

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Finally, beautifully executed originality. Did I mention that I love this story and all its parts?

Because I really do.

A lot.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-01 08:36 pm (UTC)

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You have mentioned it, yes - and I think you're an absolute sweetheart on account!

(Responsive, lively readers make this kind of thing worth it, and I'm sure I don't have to tell you that. I'm beginning to think all my thanks will never be enough.)
[User Picture]From: [info]daybreak25
2008-08-01 09:37 pm (UTC)

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dude, this was really fucking (ha) interesting. i have to say, i'm loving the joker's inner voice a lot. it's not his voice, it's not his point of view (no "me"s or "I"s) but something entirely different that just owns up to the fact that this dude is really, actually insane.

i also love that bruce found a (somewhat) reliable reason to get the joker naked. in other batman/joker fics, it's usually something out of character and raunchy that just leads to fucking--but the fact that you stayed within bruce's realm of reality (and didn't actually GET to the fucking) won so many major points dude, i can't even tell you.

am still loving this, can't wait for more. ♥
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-01 09:50 pm (UTC)

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Frankly, I think the Joker is the finest (fictional) example of actually insane you can possibly find. And I do think that having nothing left to lose is the point at which it happens (because, otherwise, that's the point at which you commit suicide or just...stop living, turn into a vegetable, whatever).

With respect to fucking, I'm not even sure I can imagine a plausible situation where these two would, well, fuck. Toying around and other forms of sexual(ized) contact, yes, but fucking would really be a...stretch. That said, if somebody finds a way of doing it that I find believable, then it'll be hats-off to them!

Your commentary is wonderful; thank you so much.
[User Picture]From: [info]arcadiaego
2008-08-02 12:42 am (UTC)

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Holy crap, friend.

This is so incredibly amazing. Obviously I've been reading your fic for many years and I am not making light when I say I think this is one of the best fandom things you've ever produced. Really. It's just so, um...brave? To really get into the Joker's head that convincingly - not that Bruce's head isn't convincing at all, but I boggle at being able to do first person Joker. I suppose that's a testament to how good Heath was (I still can't get my head around the fact that was actually Heath in there though, it didn't seem like anyone), that the thought of going into that brain is so genuinely scary...but you did it and did things I wasn't expecting but when I read them they were perfect.

(I think this is the most I've written in a fic comment in my entire life. *flees*)
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-02 10:31 am (UTC)

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There's no way I can't credit the vividness of Heath's performance. It was so...detailed, maybe in ways he didn't even realize as he was doing it. I couldn't have, for instance, taken Jack Nicholson's Joker and translated it into something like this. It didn't captivate me (and there's also the point that I was, like, nine years old when I first saw it).

Do you know, I said to James when we came out of seeing it the first time: "That wasn't Heath. It's like he was already gone."

If you want to know the truth, I thought that this installment was going to lose me a lot of readers. I thought that it would be too far off what people would be expecting, and that it would seem wrong somehow. I felt it very possible that this whole experiment was on its way out the window.

Thanks so, so much *hugs*
[User Picture]From: [info]crunchycheezit
2008-08-02 04:03 am (UTC)

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This new chapter blew me away! (although naturally, I crawled back to finish reading it.) You CHANNEL the Joker. And thank god, your Bruce is perfect. I find him butchered so so so often! Probably because we are all so obsessed with Joker that Batman's character depth gets thrown away in the hurry to make him easy for Joker. (Who likes b/j smut? *raises hand* But still, you know?) Either his sexual attraction to the Joker overwhelms his commitment to justice (so plausible, right?), or it's just lovey-dovey crap. I know people have already said this, but this is one of the few fics that takes b/j to the intellectually engaging, subtle, and believable level that it deserves.

Also, this chapter in particular was just SO FULL OF AWESOME! It went in a completely different direction from what I expected. The tables were turned. Joker's exposed vulnerablity upon losing the control over the visit was FASCINATING. Not what I expected at ALL and I am so so happy about it!

"Take away the masks and they're barely enemies; take away the rest of the trappings and they no longer know who they are." *slow clap* I. Want. Your. Mind.

Oh, and I'll have you know that I did a celebratory jig in your honor upon finding out THERE WILL BE A PART FOUR. Cannot wait. Please don't die or anything in the meantime. Can'twaitcan'twaitcan'tWAIT!!! But take your time. We'll only be suffering until your next post. ^.^
[User Picture]From: [info]crunchycheezit
2008-08-02 04:20 am (UTC)

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Ahahaha! Just noticed this. Joker from chap 2: "Just where does he shop, for chrissakes? Does the butler do it for him?" And Bruce from chap 3: "Where the hell did he shop, anyway?" Oh how that amuses me. And I WANT the Joker's socks SO. BADLY.
[User Picture]From: [info]briebribeez
2008-08-02 04:30 pm (UTC)

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Dear God.

You have captured both characters so solidly, so purely that I honestly visualized them in my head the entire way through. Their actions, reactions - exactly the way they should be.

Amazing. I'm overwhelmed.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-02 04:49 pm (UTC)

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(The weird thing here is, I'm losing sleep. Lots of it. I'll be glad to get Part 4 down and take next week off. They take more energy than...well, come to think of it, almost any other characters I've worked with. Billy and Joey sapped me back in the old days, but now, they just kind of live here and working with them doesn't tax me. But these guys, sheesh.)

I'm glad you could picture them as you were reading, because the visual element fell away for me pretty quickly. Keeping my sights trained inside their heads means I'm not thinking as much about the external features of the situation. I realized that if I didn't bring it back down to earth by the end, it wouldn't be anchored in anything resembling the fictional reality (or at least I was afraid it wouldn't be).

Once again, Brie, thank you.
[User Picture]From: [info]rampant_chaos8
2008-08-02 05:21 pm (UTC)

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Ooo... great installment :D Nice and hot, but not pointless porn either. Awesome!
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-02 05:37 pm (UTC)

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That's a relief, then, because I had definitely hoped this installment would be the least pointless in spite of containing the closest this was ever going to get to smut ;) Thanks so much for reading! Ironic; I just posted the fourth and last one. I thought, whoa, somebody managed to read it already?
[User Picture]From: [info]nomelon
2008-08-02 07:41 pm (UTC)

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This is absolutely stunning. I am so very, very impressed. I love your vision of the Joker, and it feels so very in character, visceral and real, like every sentence has so much meaning and possibility.

I loved: Take away the masks and they're barely enemies; take away the rest of the trappings and they no longer know who they are.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-02 07:44 pm (UTC)

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Thanks so much; I'm pleased to hear you enjoyed this :) I just got Part IV up this evening, so hopefully that ought to round things off a little and put them into perspective before I consider launching a new sequence off from what this one establishes.
[User Picture]From: [info]solaras
2008-08-02 11:02 pm (UTC)

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I like the shifting view points. It's like getting into each of their heads, and makes this scene more real in an uncomfortable, 'I've stumbled in on something I shouldn't see,' sort of way.

Bravo, am off to read next part.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-03 10:05 am (UTC)

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Hell, I was writing it and I felt like I shouldn't be seeing it. When I realized this part would only come off the way I needed it to if I did something really, truly invasive of psychological privacy, it kind of made me squirm. Even though they're not real, it kind of felt like stabbing them in the back a little.

I'm enjoying your commentary immensely!
[User Picture]From: [info]interpretthis
2008-08-03 07:31 am (UTC)

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Without a doubt the most incredible fic I've read for TDK. Not only did you live the Joker, you aced Bruce as well, and to get them both down and make their interaction work so well takes volumes of talent. People focus on Joker characterization so much more (understandably, yes), but I don't think many realize that Bruce/Batman (and working the two together) is exceptionally difficult as well. Each little detail, each careful nuance combined just sent my mind absolutely reeling. You've got exactly the sort of style that I cannot for the life of me ever manage to put my finger on but that is delicious and original and utterly enthralling, and this section exemplifies that to the max. Hats off to you. I'm torn between rereading this until my eyeballs vacate their sockets and moving on to part four.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-03 10:08 am (UTC)

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I have noticed the extreme Joker-obsession that's dominating the fic landscape, yes. In some ways, it's understandable (look what we've been given to work with!), but it's also important to remember that the Joker has a focal point, and that focal point is Batman. Bruce may never reach the conclusion that this guy, regardless of where he actually came from, exists solely because of him.

Well, I wouldn't want your eyeballs to run off. You need them to write with.
[User Picture]From: [info]giwi
2008-08-04 06:24 am (UTC)

YOWZA!

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Sweet tapdancing Jesus on strings!
I swear, while watching the movie, when batman is all:
"You'll be in a padded cell forever. D:<" And Upsidedown!Joker is liek
"Maybe we could share one!"
I crossed my fingers and prayed that someone with talent would have the same idea that I had.

suddenly: your fic pops up - and it's perfect!
Spot on characterization and dialog. With a wonderful and unconventional writing style to boot!

Thanks for writing!
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-04 08:07 am (UTC)

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Thank you for reading! I will continue this, I think, but in the form of a couple new sequences. Some back-tracking to the final meetings before Bruce's release, I think, is in order.
[User Picture]From: [info]fma_obsessie
2008-08-05 02:22 am (UTC)

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This type of premise/muse is one that I mull over endlessly in my mind, but would never dare to actually write. (I love writing, I love the Joker, and I love the elaborate dynamic between him and Batman, but the idea of actually writing fanfiction? Frankly, it terrifies me. And you set the bar superhumanly high.) Kudos to you to have not only the courage to make the attempt, but the talent to make this fic arguably one of, if not the, best I've ever read.

One of the things I found especially interesting was the way you portrayed the Joker as fearful in the face of Bruce's "unexpected behavior" (for lack of a better term). It's a facet to his character that I haven't really seen in much fanfiction; most writers portray him as blatantly masochistic without any capacity for fear. But I think your take was brilliant- it made the Joker more human. And the idea that he walks away from near-death unfazed and yet is terrified by Bruce's unexpected intimacy both depicts the twistedness of his personality and (almost paradoxically) evokes a lot of sympathy for him.

And even though I (like many) have an unsatiable Joker obsession, I still appreciate an accurately written Bruce, which you pulled off with aplomb.

I could rant on for a while, but I'll cut to the chase for now. There are so many unique facets to this fic (POV, dialogue, the socks XD ) and all of them are superb. I love fics that make me think hard and set my own crazy ideas loose in my head, or make me re-examine a character- and this one did both.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-05 09:56 am (UTC)

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Have you read [info]interpretthis's first two fics ("Face-Lift" and "Pulling Out")? I think they're stellar. She's recently written a third, which is good, too, but those first two are especially worth looking at! I'm glad you're enjoying mine, though, of course.

Oh, there's human weakness in him - and there are moments, mostly in facial expressions of a slip of his tone, in the film when it bleeds through. While he's not a fluffball underneath like some of the more rabid fangirls seem to think he is (wow, I can't even understand where that view is coming from), I do think that there are a few behaviors in him that are left over from his old life, whatever it was, and that they're very shocking indeed when they manage to emerge. It just so happens Bruce hit a really, really bad nerve back in Immovable Object. My theory is that the Joker would have a lot of repressed intimacy issues on account of having shoved his "human" self back so far for so long. Part of him remembers those things, wants them, and maybe even needs them, but he's just not willing to take that seriously.

Bruce is a tricky bastard, but I do think I'm getting a better feel for him as I go along. You know, I'm not really sure what he did with the socks. He probably found something to wrap them up in and casually asked Alfred to dispose of the thing for him. And I'm sure Alfred wouldn't have looked. Er. Unless he did and didn't tell me ;)

There will be more sock-trouble before this is out, you take my word.
[User Picture]From: [info]teithiwr
2008-08-06 06:25 pm (UTC)

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Hnnngh, this continues to be fabulous. So much love for your writing style, you manage the different POVs so well!
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-06 08:40 pm (UTC)

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It's a little dizzying, and I found Bruce very difficult to work with at first. I'm so pleased, though, that you love these. Good to have you along for the ride :)
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