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TDK fic, continued: "Deep, Deep Water" - Part 4/4 - PG13 - Alfred POV, Batman/Joker [Aug. 2nd, 2008|06:16 pm]
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Title: Deep, Deep Water
Fandom: The Dark Knight
Characters & Pairing: Alfred, Bruce Wayne(/Batman)/Joker
Rating: PG-13
Notes: Part 4/4; follows I. Cell-Block Tango, II. Unstoppable Force, and III. Immovable Object. I suggest reading the first three installments, as this one will make a lot more sense if you do. Having given Alfred an offscreen part in the last installment, it only seems right to give him the last word.
Summary: Those who have it hardest are those who must stand by and watch.


If I may say so, Master Bruce, this has all gone beyond too far.

It was easy enough going along with your requests while you were locked up. I'd have expected you wanting to know all those things about him: medical details, psychological profile, the whole nine yards. What I didn't expect is what you did with it, if what that gent on Arkham Security suspects is true. And I had to pay a pretty penny to get anything out of his mouth, take my word. David Marshall Anderson is a difficult man to reach, but I already fear somebody's gotten to him. No, I don't mean he'll sell you to the next highest bidder. I mean that his mind has been altered.

In the end, that's what your scarred enigma does, sir. He changes people, and he'll change you if you're not careful. I already fear you've given him too much.

Of course it's wonderful having you home again. This past year and change has seen Wayne Manor rebuilt, your company's revenues grow, and Gotham P.D. develop something resembling a backbone. I fear that having you back will reverse at least the latter, if only because they'll be paranoid about the possibility of finding you back on the streets. Now, nobody knows better than I do that they'd be right to worry.

Let me be honest, sir: I don't approve of what you're doing in your spare time. I wish I could disabuse you of this silly notion that you're going to find something in this city's, state's, country's birth-records that might give you some indication as to his origins. If a thumb-print, a medical file, and a personal examination - forgive me, Master Bruce, but I know it - can't lead you to him, then I don't know what will. And will is the operative here, because you're not going to stop, not for all your pretty lies.

Somebody sent you a present this morning, sir. It's a simple cardboard box that came wrapped in garish yellow paper and a sickly green ribbon. Inside, I found crisp tissue paper and a brand-new pair of socks. They're not your style by far - argyle in every color of the rainbow, a diamond for every gem we lost in that jungle - and the price-tag's still attached. Sixty-six dollars. They're fine socks, Master Bruce, and there's no note. I'll hide them in a corner as I once hid an unsealed letter, and, depending on what I see from you in the days to come, I may even burn them.

You attract strange admirers, make no mistake.

I've done my best, sir, to bend to your demands without making you feel as if I expect you to heed my reservations. What's hardest is watching you not notice I've got more of them than usual. Something happened to you in there, something that even my conversation with Mr. Anderson couldn't parse out. Or perhaps I should say you made something happen, and now you're not certain how to proceed. I wish you could hear yourself talk. You told me the other day it was only a matter of time.

Until what, Master Bruce? Until you find out who he is? Until you catch him? If I'm not mistaken, you already did that. He's still locked up, and now you're free. But knowing you, sir, you won't have caught him until you know what you're up against. You need to know who you're dealing with. That's just your way.

And I'm left back at square one: a tired old man afraid for your life.

It's not that I think he'll kill you, sir, if he ever gets out and has his next chance. He will get out, and he will have his chance. You'll wound each other badly, and in the end you'll each come out with a few more scars. It's the scars I can't see that concern me. I already fear he's inflicted the best of them. In Arkham, he had plenty of chance.

So I'll stand watch, Master Bruce, as I've always done, and hope you know what in hell you're doing. I'll run your errands and obtain your dirt; I'll plant your spies and collect your data, because heaven knows Lucius Fox has had it up to here with your games. I love you, sir, and no force on earth that could change my mind about that. But this battle, sir? Forgive me, but it's hardly worth wasting your life on smoke and mirrors.

There's no burning the forest when it's sunk to the bottom of the sea.


- Continue to the next sequence: I. Stranger -
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[User Picture]From: [info]briebribeez
2008-08-02 06:05 pm (UTC)

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Oh my god!
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-02 08:12 pm (UTC)

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*hugs*

You're a gauge of emotional impact that I deeply, deeply respect. I'd just like you to know that. It means a lot to me, because heaven knows I've put you through a lot over the years.

So many thanks.
[User Picture]From: [info]youlooknervous
2008-08-02 06:12 pm (UTC)

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Amazing! The last line is just perfect! It's great seeing something from Alfred's POV!
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-02 08:10 pm (UTC)

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Thank you very much! I freely admit I wanted to find a way to fit him in before this particular sequence was over. In future ones, I'm sure I can find more for him to do...
[User Picture]From: [info]blood_red_wolf
2008-08-02 06:15 pm (UTC)

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Amazing. Beautifully written. I would LOVE to see a sequel to this.
You're a fantastic writer and seem to know these characters better than anyone :D
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-02 08:09 pm (UTC)

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There's very likely to be a sequel to this sequence in the form of another one - I've left so much interim stuff (the other Arkham conversations, for instance, and who knows what else) that can be played with! And thanks to reader participation, I'm having a great time.

Thanks for reading, as always!
[User Picture]From: [info]semi_subtle
2008-08-02 06:26 pm (UTC)

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Wow. I haven't read much from Alfred's POV, but you absolutely nailed it. I could hear Michael Caine throughout the entire thing, start to finish. The idea itself was an extremely clever way to tie everything together. Fantastic work.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-02 08:07 pm (UTC)

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I haven't seen much out there from his POV, either, which is why I admit (guiltily) that I had to fit him in here somewhere before I go launching off a new sequence based on what I've got here so far. I'm sure I can find more for him to do!

That icon of yours is just so gorgeously cropped.

(Thank you!)
[User Picture]From: [info]so_pseudogoth
2008-08-02 06:26 pm (UTC)

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You are a goddess and this is my favorite fic EVER.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-02 08:05 pm (UTC)

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(Goddesshood, I severely doubt! Surely deities don't produce nearly as much post-spam as I do.)

You're very, very kind, and thanks so much for reading! I hope the new series I'm considering launching off of this one will give you as much delight.
[User Picture]From: [info]edgein_copycat
2008-08-02 06:30 pm (UTC)

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This is amazing. It's like you're in Alfred's mind!

And this makes me feel so bad for Alfred. He always has to put up with batman :(
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-02 08:02 pm (UTC)

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He's like, I don't know, the perfect long-suffering parent (or husband, or whatever). And I just adore Michael Caine.

I'm glad you enjoyed these so much, and there's very likely going to be a new sequence that will launch off from what I established in this one. I can't believe how good the response has been. Thank you.
[User Picture]From: [info]tabooism
2008-08-02 06:44 pm (UTC)

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NJS;V AVNDV;ABVIS S;DFNAJSNF.

I might make a more coherent comment when I regain any sense of composure. If I could think on how to describe a physical SIDVBNAIS;BNDVBSA;CN;O!!!! I would describe it to you.

Because that's what my brain just did upon reading this. :)

Fabulous, as always.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-02 08:00 pm (UTC)

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(And you know there's going to be more, no matter what I say. It'll just be an entirely new sequence playing on theme and variations. I've given myself too much to play with here. I should have known this would get badly out of control.)

Have some tea. It'll restore your composure in no time. Alfred recommends it!

*hugs* Lovelovelove your feedback. Always.
From: (Anonymous)
2008-08-02 07:22 pm (UTC)

Wow.

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This is simply amazing. You've captured Alfred's essence as well as Sir Caine's in a few lines. And the socks was nice touch.

I loved this series and bow down to your, for a lack of better words, MAD skills. ;hail:
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-02 07:59 pm (UTC)

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I love Alfred to pieces; I would really like to do more with him. Given that people are already asking for something further, I'm thinking that I'll use the groundwork I laid in these four pieces to start an entirely new sequence beyond them. I'll probably either back up and cover some more of the Arkham dialogues that happened in that year and a half Alfred hints at, or I'll move forward and see about getting the Joker out of Arkham.

No bowing; we're all equals here. I thank you profusely!
[User Picture]From: [info]keldjinfae_moon
2008-08-02 07:25 pm (UTC)

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So... uh... sequel? All four parts were brilliant, in the sense that I'm like, "THAT'S IT?!"

I think you nailed Alfred's voice perfectly. I can very much see him saying this. The previous three were just as powerful too, I just haven't had time to review them (I will, promise; I have dial-up and it makes me procrastinate).

So... how about that sequel? Was it you who said this would be continued? I can't remember if it was you or another author. However, if it was you, then OMGMOARNAOPLZ!
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-02 07:53 pm (UTC)

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When I said this would be continued, I was back at Parts I and II saying there would be III and IV *g* However, from the overwhelming response (I can't even tell you how floored I am; you're a magnificent bunch of readers [and writers]), I do think that I have an excellent basis from which to launch a new sequence. Given that I only covered two of their "visits" in Arkham, I could easily back-track and do a set called, say, The Arkham Sessions that will flesh out Alfred's fears.

Thanks for reading, and thanks for giving me possibilities to mull over!
[User Picture]From: [info]crunchycheezit
2008-08-02 07:31 pm (UTC)

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Sequel. SEQUEL. PLEASE. The perpsectives never cease to delight--I love Alfred! The socks as a gift--PERFECT.

"There's no burning the forest when it's sunk to the bottom of the sea." Wow.

This demands sequelness. I am burning to know what changes they've wrought on each other. BURNING.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-02 07:57 pm (UTC)

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Given that the response to this sequence has been positively exponential, I think I might back up a little and do a new sequence that launches off of this one. I have a lot of options: I could backtrack and do more of the Arkham Sessions (a likely title!) between Bruce and the Joker, or I could move forward to a point when the Joker's out again. I'll have a good think about it while I'm slogging my way through some much-neglected academic work next week ;)

Thanks once again; you're a delightful reader!
[User Picture]From: [info]hyde_the_body
2008-08-02 08:07 pm (UTC)

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Holy crap! How do you do it? Alfred, Bruce, the Joker, every one of them nailed on the head with your litterary hammer!
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-02 08:15 pm (UTC)

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Well, I write by drinking, say, two pots of tea and staying up till three in the morning fiddling with the editing, which, as you can imagine, really gets on my housemates' nerves (thankfully, they get affectionately annoyed instead of furious). That's how ;) I swear to you, I feel like the success of this sequence has been almost entirely accidental; I never imagined I'd ever be drawn to write in any corner of Batman fandom, so I looked at this as one big...joke, experiment, something. I'm so thrilled that people have responded well; it gives me plenty to think about along the lines of launching off other pieces from here :)

Thank you very, very much.
[User Picture]From: [info]rampant_chaos8
2008-08-02 08:18 pm (UTC)

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That was an excellent Alfred POV... I especially loved the last line. Great job! :D
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-02 08:21 pm (UTC)

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It seems there's not much of his POV floating around out there, but I hope others will help to remedy that! Glad you liked it; thanks a million for reading :)
[User Picture]From: [info]psychotic_lover
2008-08-02 09:13 pm (UTC)

W.O.W

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This was awesome! You must write more!
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-02 09:14 pm (UTC)

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Thanks; glad you enjoyed it so much! I'm very likely to launch a second sequence off the groundwork I laid in this one, so do stay tuned :)
[User Picture]From: [info]solaras
2008-08-02 11:07 pm (UTC)

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Poor Alfred, but his viewpoint is a lovely way to conclude. *thumbs up*
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-03 10:11 am (UTC)

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Fortunately, he's both strong enough to take it and devoted enough to Bruce to put up with...well, anything. Bruce would be in dire straits without him, and I think he knows that.

Merci bien!
[User Picture]From: [info]edincoat
2008-08-02 11:11 pm (UTC)

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Best Batman fic EVER, and if anyone says otherwise, I'll beat them up.

Love love loved this, am totally enamoured with your characterisation of.. well, everyone, and the final line was perfect like sliced bread before toast.

Going to reread and babble incoherently now ♥
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-03 10:14 am (UTC)

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Now, now - if people don't like these, I'm perfectly willing to let them say so! But if anybody ever does something that would be truly worthy of beating-up, well, maybe then I'll call you in ;)

The first line, I had before the rest. It kind of wrote itself backwards, which is not how the others worked at all.

Keep your coherency, too; you need that! And thank you.
[User Picture]From: [info]tentaclees
2008-08-02 11:46 pm (UTC)

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really amazing fic. seriously, i love every single bit of it. <3
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-03 10:15 am (UTC)

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Wow, and I like your icon! Thank you so much.
[User Picture]From: [info]alias_sqbr
2008-08-03 12:21 am (UTC)

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I really liked these. I was curious to see where it went and am glad you didn't have anything approaching a happy (or melodramatically tragic) ending.

Amusingly, I was thinking "This is good, but it isn't quite Alfred's voice" then realised I was thinking of Old School Alfred (I rewatched "Batman Returns" recently, as well as "Gotham Knight"), and that if I imagined it as Michael Caine Alfred it was perfect :)
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-03 10:17 am (UTC)

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Oh, hell no: neither happy nor melodramatic would have entered the equation at any point here. The trick is that these characters remain locked in the same eternally troubled holding pattern, and you have to work within that.

Do you know, I can't even summon what Old-School Alfred sounded like? I was so young when I saw Batman and Batman Returns that he didn't leave much of an impression. No, I'm really working with Batman Begins/TDK here and very little else.

Thank you, dear!
[User Picture]From: [info]cormallen
2008-08-03 12:28 am (UTC)

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I just read these four, despite a great deal of hemming and hawing along the lines of "do I really want to read Batman slash", and I have to say, you completely blew me away. They were amazing, and I loved every word.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-03 10:19 am (UTC)

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As in any fandom, there's good fic and there's bad fic. I'm honored that you've decided mine falls in to the former category instead of the latter! Reading anything is a risk, so I thank you for taking that risk. And I'm pleased you weren't left disappointed. I take pleasure in entertaining people; it's that simple!
[User Picture]From: [info]immovinout
2008-08-03 01:10 am (UTC)

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Dude, you are made of win. Totally win.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-03 10:19 am (UTC)

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I've always wondered what win looks like as a substance, you know? It's an amusing thought :)

Thank you, my dear.
[User Picture]From: [info]arcadiaego
2008-08-03 02:06 am (UTC)

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Yay, Alfred. :) He's always so sensible, if only Bruce would listen to him more...

This whole sequence has been a pleasure to read.
[User Picture]From: [info]my_kurama
2008-08-03 07:23 am (UTC)

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wowza. that last line was incredible, just like this entire arc was. I really hope to see you work with this pairing again, it was truly a pleasure to read. Socks were a nice touch!
[User Picture]From: [info]stele3.insanejournal.com
2008-08-03 07:27 am (UTC)

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Goddamn. Am reading this avidly, and I love the slow unfolding of this two-way obsession. And then, a break in that dark mood, as Alfred pops up as an oasis of cold hard sanity.

I can't imagine where this is going, but I'll follow you there. Consider me hooked.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-03 10:24 am (UTC)

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I'm starting to imagine further where this is going, as the possibilities are a lot greater than I had initially thought (or had initially been willing to think; see, I really was under the illusion I'd try this on a lark and it wouldn't behave for me at all).

I do love Alfred. I thought it might come off as random to have him in at the last minute, but actually, I'm glad I overruled that suspicion, as you all clearly wanted to hear from him, too.

I keep popping over to your IJ to see if you've added anything to those comment discussions of yours!
[User Picture]From: [info]interpretthis
2008-08-03 07:52 am (UTC)

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Never read a fic in Alfred's POV and I feel like I still haven't -- your Alfred voice might as well be canon. Alfred is loyalty and deep concern but from a distance, and each word I read made me feel that I was standing with him watching Bruce's world burn from behind a glass wall. Is there anyone you can't write?

a diamond for every gem we lost in that jungle
Such a nice touch, it packs a punch and sets up very, very nicely for that stunning finale. ♥ I feel like double friending you for your fabulousity. Sadly this is as of yet impossible. We shall have to annoy LJ with dirty socks and potato peelers!
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-03 10:28 am (UTC)

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To be honest, in the next sequence, whatever/however it turns out to be, I want to bring in a couple other characters and see what I can do with them. And it could well turn out that I suck at Harvey/Two-Face, but I do believe he'd be my next target. Granted, I think what I've got going with Bruce and the Joker at this point is only the tip of the iceberg and I need to hack away at it and see what else is there. It'll be one hell of a twisted ice-sculpture.

Dirty socks, check - but potato peelers, gosh, I didn't find room for one here! Is it really amongst the implements laid out at Gotham Police Station? In two viewings, that's one of the things I think I've failed to properly mentally catalogue: exactly what he's carrying on his person. A potato peeler? God, I could laugh at that for at least ten minutes. I mean, at a glance, you don't think one would do much damage, but then you think about what it's designed to do: slice off skin and dig out eyes.

(Well, if you think about it, we actually have friended each other twice ;)
[User Picture]From: [info]animegl
2008-08-03 05:35 pm (UTC)

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All the parts were amazingly written. You keep in character so well. I hope to see more from you. ^^
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-03 06:17 pm (UTC)

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Thanks for the lovely feedback - and yes, you will be seeing more :)
From: (Anonymous)
2008-08-03 08:09 pm (UTC)

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Delurking to tell you how much I loved the psychological drama. That was dark, twisted and absolutely beautiful. Thank you.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-03 08:40 pm (UTC)

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You're very welcome - my thanks to you for de-lurking and letting me know how it struck you. I do intend to spin a couple of other sequences off of this one, so do stay tuned. If commenting isn't your thing, though, please don't feel pressured. It's enough to know you're enjoying the ride!
[User Picture]From: [info]tanzent
2008-08-03 09:15 pm (UTC)

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Much like its companions, this piece is excellent, very believably characterized, and well-written. And now that I have flattered you in response to it, I'm off to try and recollect my socks. The were effectively blown off, you see.
[User Picture]From: [info]irisbleufic
2008-08-03 09:25 pm (UTC)

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I would send you new socks as a present, but I'm pretty broke at the minute!

Thank you, dear.
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